Is that the DOORBELL I hear?!?

My younger brother was a MASTER when it came to avoiding getting punishments and whippings.

I remember once how he was sent to his room.  Some time later, we hear:

 “Guys?!?”

 A short amount of time passes and then we hear:

 “Guys?  I love you Guys!?!”

 Finally, with no response, we hear:

 “Guys?  I might die Guys!?!

 That was how my brother thought as a young kid.  Whether he was selling my mom’s canceled checks to the neighborhood kids for real money or taking his wagon around with my cousin removing everyone’s water meter covers and then selling it back to them for money or pie – he liked pie!

Once he was in big trouble and getting ready to get a whipping.  As mom had him bent over, he says:

Wait! Wait! Wait!  Is it going to hurt?

 Mom answers him and then gets ready again when he states:

 “Wait! Wait! Wait!  How many smacks?

 Again mom answers him and gets ready a final time:

 “Wait! Wait! Wait!  Is that the doorbell I hear?

 Mom lost her will to punish him – to teach him.  She laughed and couldn’t stop.  My brother learned right there how to use someone’s emotions against them at a very young age – how to manipulate them through guilt, cuteness, and humor.

doorbell

Why do I bring these old stories up? They are to make a point.  How so, you might ask?  Imagine the following scenarios:

  •  Who broke the faucet?
  • Who broke the antenna on the car?
  • Who took my money from my wallet?
  • Why did you lie about brushing your teeth?
  • Why were you playing with matches in the house?
  • Why did you swallow that quarter?
  • Who ate all the desert?

 

There is many more than this.  They will make their point simple enough.  I want you to imagine how happy my little brother would have been to grow up in a “deliverance ministry” household – A “demons are the reason” type deliverance ministry household – a “demons can be IN believers” type deliverance ministry household.   Why would he be happy?  Because none of the above list would be “his” fault!  He would have a ready made excuse – notice the following:

  • Who broke the faucet?  I have a demon in me – he made me do it!
  • Who broke the antenna on the car? I have a demon in me – he made me do it!
  • Who took my money from my wallet? I have a demon in me – he made me do it!
  • Why did you lie about brushing your teeth?  I have a demon in me – he made me do it!
  • Why were you playing with matches in the house?  I have a demon in me – he made me do it!
  • Why did you swallow that quarter? I have a demon in me – he made me do it!
  • Who ate all the desert?  I have a demon in me – he made me do it!

 

What’s worse is, how can a parent involved in the type of “deliverance ministry” that believes all wrongdoing are demons “inside” people, ever punish their children?  Let me give you an example:

 Let’s suppose that the child lies about something and the parent catches them.  How do you punish that child with any form of integrity?  Does whipping them for what “a demon made them do” make sense to you?  Will whipping them “cast the demon out?” Does the demon feel the whipping or just the child?  Do I need to go further with these type of questions?  The mind boggles at the reasoning and the inconsistencies of those in “demon inside you deliverance type ministries.”

 How about integrity?  If all sickness are demons “inside your soulish realm” that need to be cast out so they can be set free as some of them teach, then the real lack of integrity on these parents parts are when they take their child to be immunized. Can you immunize your child from a demon being in them with medical science?  If so, does the medicine “cast out” the demon? If not, then why would you do it?  To obey the authorities?   Any what about if your child gets sicker because you do NOT use medicine on them?  What if it results in them needing to go to the emergency room?

 Why would you go to the emergency room in the first place???

 Shouldn’t you be taking them down to your local “cast demons out because sickness is demonic” type deliverance ministries church?  I mean you have to know that they are going to give them medicine, right? Unless you believe medicine cast out demons, then wouldn’t this not only be a lesson in futility, but a lack of faith in God as well?

What about when the parent has pink eye, yeast infection, kidney stones, urinary tract infection – –  All demons, right?  Does this parent go to the doctor? If so, again, why?

I am going to make it simple.

 There is only one “deliverance ministry.”

 It is He that has the name actually meaning deliverance . . . it is He that has the name that actually means salvation:

Yeshua!!!

 Genesis 49:18 (CJB)

18 I wait for your deliverance, Adonai.

 

3568.יְשׁוּעָה‎ yeshûʿāh

noun

salvation, deliverance

Thoralf Gilbrant, ed., “3568,” in The Complete Biblical Library Hebrew-English Dictionary – Heth-Yodh, (Springfield, IL: World Library Press, Inc., 1998), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, Under: “3568”.

 

Matthew 1:21 (CJB)

21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to name him

 Yeshua, [which means ‘Adonai saves,’]

 because he will save his people from their sins.”

Leave the man-made doctrines alone!  Stop following men that teach something different than what is in the text – men that pervert what is already in the text – men that don’t rightly divide what is in the text . . . and Trust in Him!  He is where healing comes from!!!

The deliverance ministries that teach that even though you are a new creation in Messiah, that you can and do have demons in you as that new creation – that darkness can be in the presence of light – are simply false teaching.

I leave you the following chapter of the text.  Think about and consider what is being addressed here and why.  If you look at the context, you will see a big picture – a picture that is hard to ignore.  I will let you contemplate it and draw your own conclusions.  It was obviously a problem then . . . it is obviously a problem now –

 

2 Peter 2:1-22 (CJB)

1 But among the people there were also false prophets,

just as there will be false teachers among you.

Under false pretenses they will introduce destructive heresies,

even denying the Master who bought them,

and thus bring on themselves swift destruction.

2 Many will follow their debaucheries;

and because of them,

the true Way will be maligned.

3 In their greed they will exploit you with fabricated stories.

Their punishment, decreed long ago,

is not idle;

their destruction is not asleep!

4 For God did not spare the angels who sinned;

on the contrary,

he put them in gloomy dungeons lower than Sh’ol to be held for judgment.

5 And he did not spare the ancient world;

on the contrary,

he preserved Noach, a herald of righteousness, with seven others,

and brought the Flood upon a world of ungodly people.

6 And he condemned the cities of S’dom and ‘Amora,

reducing them to ashes and ruin,

as a warning to those in the future who would live ungodly lives;

7 but he rescued Lot,

a righteous man who was distressed by the debauchery of those unprincipled people;

8 for the wicked deeds which that righteous man saw and heard,

as he lived among them, tormented his righteous heart day after day.

9 So the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials

and how to hold the wicked until the Day of Judgment

while continuing to punish them,

10 especially those who follow their old natures in lust for filth

and who despise authority.

Presumptuous and self-willed,

these false teachers

do not tremble at insulting angelic beings;

11 whereas angels,

though stronger and more powerful,

do not bring before the Lord an insulting charge against them.

12 But these people, acting without thinking,

like animals without reason,

born to be captured and destroyed,

insult things about which they have no knowledge.

When they are destroyed,

their destruction will be total —

13 they will be paid back harm as wages for the harm they are doing.

Their idea of pleasure is carousing in broad daylight;

they are spots and defects reveling in their deceptions

as they share meals with you —

14 for they have eyes always on the lookout for a woman who will commit adultery,

eyes that never stop sinning;

and they have a heart that has exercised itself in greed;

so that they seduce unstable people.

What a cursed brood!

15 These people have left the straight way

and wandered off to follow the way of Bil‘am Ben-B‘or,

who loved the wages of doing harm 16 but was rebuked for his sin —

a dumb beast of burden spoke out with a human voice

and restrained the prophet’s insanity!

17 Waterless springs they are,

mists driven by a gust of wind;

for them has been reserved the blackest darkness.

18 Mouthing grandiosities of nothingness,

they play on the desires of the old nature,

in order to seduce with debaucheries

people who have just begun to escape

from those whose way of life is wrong.

19 They promise them freedom,

but they themselves are slaves of corruption;

for a person is slave to whatever has defeated him.

20 Indeed, if they have once escaped

the pollutions of the world

through knowing our Lord and Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah,

 and then have again become entangled and defeated by them,

 their latter condition has become worse than their former.

21 It would have been better for them

not to have known the Way of righteousness

than, fully knowing,

to turn from the holy command delivered to them.

22 What has happened to them accords with the true proverb,

A dog returns to its own vomit.”

Yes, “The pig washed itself, only to wallow in the mud!”

 Proverbs 26:11 (CJB)

11 Just as a dog returns to his vomit, a fool repeats his folly.

 

Brothers and sisters,

I love you – I want you to be healthy spiritually . . .

I try to protect those I love.

 

Blessings to all of you!

 

 

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About Even If Ministries

Dani'el 3:17-18 (CJB) 17 Your majesty, if our God, whom we serve, is able to save us, he will save us from the blazing hot furnace and from your power. 18 But even if he doesn’t, we want you to know, your majesty, that we will neither serve your gods nor worship the gold statue which you have set up.”
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4 Responses to Is that the DOORBELL I hear?!?

  1. mimisuze says:

    Excellent points!

  2. Very well written. Simple truth…I feel blessed that you care this much about our friends and family.

  3. After having a brief discussion with a young person today about the Ruach HaKodesh, it got me to thinking concerning some of the things they said. . . The Brit Chadashah (New Covenant) was received by the biblical writers through revelation from Adonai through the Ruach. Adonai does not lie – his word does not fail. What happens when someone accepts that what they believe is from the Ruach with their whole heart – that all they need is the Ruach (implying that they don’t need the text as much as what the Ruach reveals) – and yet the Ruach is how the text was received and revealed? What happens when they believe the Ruach has given them something that is not in the text or contradicts the text (a text that was given also through the Ruach)?

    Don’t be so quick to judge this young person – I believe their zeal for God is real . . . this is a real problem for many, many people. For some, it is a paradox. For some, it is a conundrum. For some, it is a lack of understanding. For some, it is a lack of knowledge. For some, it is a lack of wisdom. For some, it is a lack of patience. For some, it is a lack of trust (faith). For some, it is not understanding what the text is or what its purpose is.

    There is only one doctrine according to the Rabbi Sha’ul(Paul), and yet we have hundreds of doctrines (many different ones within the same faith: there is not one kind of Baptist, but many – there is not one kind of Lutheran, but many – there is not one kind . . . well, you get the point).

    It is my prayer that these writings on this site are glorifying to God – That they help people get to the root of their theological suppositions so that they can examine them in the light of the text – So that we don’t worship the God we create in our own minds, but worship the God that created us!

    Be blessed!

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